South Korean Expat’s “10 Things I Don’t Like About China” – Part 2

South Korean Expat’s “10 Things I Don’t Like About China” – Part 2
Jan 09, 2013 By eChinacities.com

Editor’s note: the following article was translated from a blog post on ifeng.com. In the post, the author, Jin Zaixian (金宰贤), a South Korean man, discusses ten things he doesn’t like about China, taken from his recently published book on living in China for the last decade. Below is part two of this blog post (see part 1 here).

 

In 2012, I wrote a book entitled "China, Can I Say No to You?". The book depicts a South Korean's perspective on living in China, and I wrote it to provide Chinese friends with a new perspective for looking upon problems with their country. The book begins with just such a sentiment. To date, I've lived in China for nine years. As time passed by, I gradually became used to many things; however I still struggle to come to terms with the following ten items.

6) No one ever says "I'm sorry"
I previously wrote an article addressing this issue. As you may imagine, it became the subject of much scorn online. Many people criticized me for making a sweeping generalization about China, and assuming my own limited experiences with Chinese were somehow representative of the society as a whole. However, I did not write that article off the cuff; it’s a topic that I’d given much thought to over the years. And I still feel that compared to most foreigners, Chinese are really unwilling to say "I'm sorry". I think that there are two reasons for this. First, is the reserved nature of Chinese people. Generally speaking, Chinese people will not say the whole of what they mean. For me, oftentimes it's not until after I've had a chance to stop and think about the entire context of what they’ve said that I'll understand their actual meaning. Second, is that Chinese people excessively adhere to the Confucian Doctrine of the Mean (中庸) – which roughly means that they try to handle matters moderately, without resorting to an extreme. Very rarely have I seen a Chinese person take full responsibility for something; most of the time, they just leave a matter unsettled. Consequently, when somebody is criticized, his or her most strategic option is refusing to claim responsibility.

7) High quality goods are expensive; inexpensive goods are junk
When I first came to China, I thought that the prices here were very low. I still remember the first time I saw how much a watermelon cost, my jaw dropped. It was so much cheaper than in South Korea. I thought that China was a shopper's paradise. But that was then. These days, most goods have gone up in price. In particular, many of China's “luxury” goods are now outrageously overpriced. And the only goods that are still fairly priced are usually complete junk. I've gradually discovered that inexpensive, well-made goods simply don't exist in China. In many cases, the price of luxury goods in China is more expensive than in South Korea, so whenever I go back I'm sure to load up on clothing, skin care products and so on.

I've also noticed that Chinese tourists receive a lot of media attention in South Korea. Every report features some variant on the statement: "the rich Chinese have more money than they know what to do with; they're buying everything in sight; you’ll see them carrying a dozen shopping bags each on their return flights to China". While this is undoubtedly true, it rather misses the point: the reason they’re spending so much money on goods in South Korea is because goods are so much cheaper here than in China.

8) Medical treatment is a huge hassle and really expensive
The place I most dread visiting in China (aside from queuing at the bank) is the hospital. Although many aspects of China's infrastructure such as the subways, railways and highways have all dramatically improved in the past decade, the country's health care system remains incredibly cumbersome. In my opinion, you’d be hard pressed to find another part of “modernizing China” that’s shown fewer signs of improvement: hospital facilities are still vastly outdated, management and service are terrible etc.

The biggest hassles I've encountered in China are at hospitals. It's gotten to the point where if I need to see a doctor, I'll fly back to South Korea to do so. Not only is it easier to communicate in my native language, it’s also more convenient and sometimes, believe it or not, less expensive. Besides dealing with the skyrocketing housing costs (see below), I think that health care reform is one of the most pressing issues facing China today; it directly affects a lot of people's standard of living as well as the country's Happiness Index rating.

9) Money won’t buy you good service
Even before coming to China, I'd heard that it was hard to find "service with a smile" here. But the first time some clerk literally threw my change back at me, I was still pretty surprised. Since then, I've learnt to greatly reduce my expectations for service standards, as otherwise I'd be constantly feeling disappointed. Consequently, the first time I ate at one of the Haidilao restaurants in 2007, I was actually quite moved by their service and attentiveness. China still has places like this? It was something I hadn’t anticipated. Today, service in certain restaurants and stores has improved, although China's service industry as a whole is still pretty terrible. Recently, back in South Korea, I was taking the high-speed rail and I happened to see one of the attendants bow their head to a passenger they were assisting. This image stuck with me. People's money is hard earned; if we spend that money, we have the right to enjoy quality service.

10) Housing costs are out of control!
This is undoubtedly the thing that today's youth are most concerned about. It's the issue that most affects their vital interests, and it is the key factor in distinguishing them as either lower or middle class. Since I do no intend to buy a house in China, this issue doesn't give me nearly the headache that it must give China's youth, but I can feel the pressure that they're up against. The biggest contradiction is that housing prices increased as a result of the economic prosperity brought on by the reform and opening policy, but while China's youth have benefited from that economic prosperity, they're also faced with an increasing amount of pressure. Previously, while I was in an MBA program at Peking University, I was living in the Dongwangzhuang compound in Beijing's Haidian District (just north of Wudaokou). The apartments in this compound were very basic, and cost me about 2,600 RMB per month at the time. When I visited the area earlier this year, I was shocked to find that the average rent in that very compound had increased to almost 30,000 RMB – more than ten-fold in a single decade! Never would I have expected that this "ugly duckling" would become such a "beautiful swan".

Conclusion

So I've just listed 10 things that I don't like about China. At this point, many of you are probably thinking: If you dislike China so much, then why do you still live here? The fact is that these ten things don't make me forget the incredibly friendly and warm interactions I've had with so many Chinese people during my time living and traveling in this country. Their goodness and kindness has led me to love the land of China and the people living here. Moreover, I think that China exhibits the same "melting pot" characteristic as the United States (perhaps "hot pot" is a better analogy): elements of the past and present are mixing everywhere, and things are constantly changing. Ten “dislikes” aside, these are the two major reasons I love China. I wrote this article to point out some of the problems in China, which I've been criticized for countless times online. To my critics I say this: If I didn't care about or want this country to continue to develop, then I wouldn't bother criticizing anything. The reason that I am so critical of China, is because I want it to become a better country, and because I believe that such a China will not only be beneficial to Chinese, but to the whole world.

Source: ifeng

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14 Comments

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jixiang

I am not sure I like the way the author points to how he saw an attendant "bow their head to a passenger" in a South Korean train as an example of great service. Bowing is a Korean and Japanese cultural trait. Attendants would never bow to you in Europe or America.

Jan 17, 2013 16:11 Report Abuse

Amazingchina

Now I have read all the "10 dislike China", and it is a good conclusion to make Chinese understand why you are still in China. In face, many Chinese has complaint similar things on internet , it is not new. Once it is a fact, I don't care who say it, Chinese or Foreigner, it is an opinion. I don't think this topic should taken as a "Joke" and "fighting" subject which will lose its value and respectful.

Jan 13, 2013 14:21 Report Abuse

Guest712090

This is a Joke, this article is not written by a Korean at all. Chinese and Korean shares a similiar society.

Jan 13, 2013 00:53 Report Abuse

Guest67884

It really doesn't matter who wrote the article - You can look up the author of the book also mentioned. What's really the point is to reflect, as China is a growing power, and can, as a world power, IMPROVE as we all try to do! There's room and opportunity for all (as a global community), if we can just face it. I have neighbors, relatives, friends, etc (including myself) with querks or areas we could improve on - we can still like them eventhough there may be some problem areas. So, if somebody brought it up - in this case, supposedly a close Asian neighbor such as the writer (regarding China's perceived varied shortcomings) then it might be more readily addressed and dealt with better! Hey, my friends would tell me if I had spinach in my teeth, or made some embarrassing social mistakes; so why can't Chinese bear the constructive criticisms to be a better place?

Jan 20, 2013 12:08 Report Abuse

manojc

oh my god.koreans people like this kind of narrow mentality i don't believe.then many korean families not stay in china and do there work.south koreans big cities same like any chinese cities.i already visited south korea. if south korea condition better then china.then psy never dance for gangnam style. this song criticise korean lifestyle. so next time criticize another country life style. please this man first looking there own country. thank you

Jan 11, 2013 18:29 Report Abuse

Jeaniacob

If you teach Chinese children or adults English, they have to learn to say "sorry!" or "I'm sorry!" too. It's part of our Western Culture and it's a lesson not only to enrich vocabulary, but to enrich with senses the common sense in China does not consider it necessary. The approach of the writer about such basic need it's a remarkable social and anthropological insight in the today China's common sense and Culture. It opens my eyes and it confirms my suspicion. But I have this hope, that as an English teacher I can bring new meanings about human being and teach them that being sorry for a mistake it means understand and avoid repeating it again. Such lesson it comes together with forgiveness. Such values are seeds on the path where later on it will grow fruits of respect, genuine and sincere respect...forr yourself and for everybody.

Jan 09, 2013 20:48 Report Abuse

bill8899

Amazingly insightful and fresh.

Jan 09, 2013 19:00 Report Abuse

mauridaniel

hahahaha,koreans complain about chinese,thats ridiculs. i will tell you just 5 think things about korean people and korea. 1-they smell kimchi all the time(disgusting). 2-they think they are respetfull people,but when they drink SOJU they are worse then nazis!! 3-they allways are rite about things and treat woman like rubish all the time. 4-korean subways smell like rubish all the time. 5-korean people never like other asians,they are racist and discriminate other asians all the time.they will be nice only if some asian got money.

Jan 09, 2013 16:02 Report Abuse

Guest619950

@mauridaniel, are you sure about what you're saying? Or are you just angry???

Jan 12, 2013 12:12 Report Abuse

Lago

The same could be said about almost every nationality in the world.

Jan 22, 2013 09:36 Report Abuse

Mateusz

@Mauridaniel That post was meant to be sarcastic... right? I really hope so.

Jul 27, 2013 23:38 Report Abuse

giadrosich

Great list, even if there are few surprises. Personally, I think the whole business can be summed up in one of the last few sentences, being: "If I didn't care about or want this country to continue to develop, then I wouldn't bother criticizing anything." What some Chinese fail to realize is that, when some foreigners criticize, it isn't that they don't like everything about China, just some aspects. The "all or nothing" attitude that is given back to their comments is simply the ability to admit that progress needs to be made to an "outsider." It is the classic "us" vs "them" mentality. I think that when more Chinese (and yes, foreigners have to understand this, also) realize that viewpoints are valid, where ever they come from, this in turn leads to a better country, society, and personal experience.

Jan 09, 2013 13:58 Report Abuse

jonuk

To Giadrosich, yes I think you totally got it and the guy who wrote the article also. Being an English teacher and living in Taiwan for more than 15 years and whenever I mention anything slightly criticising the whole classroom goes icy quiet, they always take it so badly. God coming from England I know there is an endless list of things so wrong with England and the English. Point them out and I'll really think about it. The other day a Taiwanese friend said English are pretty cold and I immediately agreed, I know we can be, not all of us but I know we can be for sure and that is only the tip of the iceberg. Anyway it is great to read comments like this and know other foreigners experience the differences and know it can be done better. I totally agree with the comments made about the Chinese themselves as for the other stuff regarding prices of good or houses I would say suck it up, what do you expect things to get cheaper? As for the not saying sorry thing that gets me aswell. Here in Taiwan the word just does not exist. Blatant wrongs go without any kind of remorse or sense that they did something mildly wrong.

Jan 09, 2013 15:02 Report Abuse

Guest434920

It seems that, in general, British, Australians, and Americans tend to accept criticism from foreigners more than Chinese. When a foreigner mentions something negative about the US only the fringe nationalists go on the immediate defensive. In China, no one is ever allowed to point out flaws.

Jul 27, 2013 23:37 Report Abuse